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	<title>Comments on: Merchants, Are Your Product Feeds Leaving Affiliates Hungry?</title>
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	<description>Online blog of Jason Dale, co-director of Loquax. My views on affiliate marketing, running a website and anything else that seems appropriate!</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice if rogue characters in the feeds could be automatically identified as well.  I&#039;ve lost count of the number of times our db has thrown an error on an incoming feed and then when you view it in Excel you can see all sorts of rubbish, some of it absolutely trivial from a db point of view eg. commas in the product field which wreck the parsing, not to speak of hashes, double quotes etc. etc.

Some networks have way more problems sorting their incoming merchant feeds than others, so I assume that the ones that work well have various character filters on the incoming feeds.

Presumably the networks with reliable feeds have a database guru.  Its certainly needed as its no easy job to screen for sets of rogue characters and replace them with spaces or whatever.  Bad enough doing it manually !

Mind you, although I have a friend who seems to be able to name a price for working on corporate databases, apparently general db work doesn&#039;t pay that well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if rogue characters in the feeds could be automatically identified as well.  I&#8217;ve lost count of the number of times our db has thrown an error on an incoming feed and then when you view it in Excel you can see all sorts of rubbish, some of it absolutely trivial from a db point of view eg. commas in the product field which wreck the parsing, not to speak of hashes, double quotes etc. etc.</p>
<p>Some networks have way more problems sorting their incoming merchant feeds than others, so I assume that the ones that work well have various character filters on the incoming feeds.</p>
<p>Presumably the networks with reliable feeds have a database guru.  Its certainly needed as its no easy job to screen for sets of rogue characters and replace them with spaces or whatever.  Bad enough doing it manually !</p>
<p>Mind you, although I have a friend who seems to be able to name a price for working on corporate databases, apparently general db work doesn&#8217;t pay that well.</p>
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		<title>By: BLOGERCISE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BLOGERCISE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree that feeds are all to often of poor quality.  Missing products or incorrectly categorised, and in some cases incorrectly formed feeds all result in missed promotion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree that feeds are all to often of poor quality.  Missing products or incorrectly categorised, and in some cases incorrectly formed feeds all result in missed promotion.</p>
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		<title>By: hero</title>
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		<dc:creator>hero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from our end as a network, feeds (unlike the stats :-)) DO make or break a retail program, so at Webgains we do not launch a program without a feed, end of (disclaimer: exceptions do occasionally occur but in the UK I believe there have been 3 exceptions in the 4.5 years I&#039;ve been there). 

So, 1. we don&#039;t launch without a feed. 431 live programs on the UK, 352 have a feed, that&#039;s 82%. The remaining 18% is dating, gambling, lead gen programs for the most, and some retailers whose feeds we disabled for poor quality. 

2. the feed we get is scrutinised for its quality - we have sector templates which we strongly recommend are followed by the merchants. Categorisation is important too, so we are very particular with that. To the point that we might delay the launch, but I believe it&#039;s best to get it right from the start rather than troubleshoot later (lucky I&#039;m not a developer, I would never finish a project).

3. the feeds are largely automated and on daily updates. This means that they pull the info directly from the site real time or close enough and we get that info every night. Some merchants do need to push the file for update even if it&#039;s automated. Manually updated files are chased up and we mostly manage to have them updated. We display the date of the last change, so affiliates can see who updates and who doesn&#039;t. 

4. we have quality control in product and image urls, as well as pricing info. We check 100 products from each file and display our findings to the affiliates in the feed checker. We use that too to troubleshoot feeds with the merchants. 

And, 5. if you do spot any problems with a feed, give us a shout and we are very fast to get it fixed if we can from our end, or pester the merchant until it is.

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from our end as a network, feeds (unlike the stats <img src='http://www.onelittleduck.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) DO make or break a retail program, so at Webgains we do not launch a program without a feed, end of (disclaimer: exceptions do occasionally occur but in the UK I believe there have been 3 exceptions in the 4.5 years I&#8217;ve been there). </p>
<p>So, 1. we don&#8217;t launch without a feed. 431 live programs on the UK, 352 have a feed, that&#8217;s 82%. The remaining 18% is dating, gambling, lead gen programs for the most, and some retailers whose feeds we disabled for poor quality. </p>
<p>2. the feed we get is scrutinised for its quality &#8211; we have sector templates which we strongly recommend are followed by the merchants. Categorisation is important too, so we are very particular with that. To the point that we might delay the launch, but I believe it&#8217;s best to get it right from the start rather than troubleshoot later (lucky I&#8217;m not a developer, I would never finish a project).</p>
<p>3. the feeds are largely automated and on daily updates. This means that they pull the info directly from the site real time or close enough and we get that info every night. Some merchants do need to push the file for update even if it&#8217;s automated. Manually updated files are chased up and we mostly manage to have them updated. We display the date of the last change, so affiliates can see who updates and who doesn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>4. we have quality control in product and image urls, as well as pricing info. We check 100 products from each file and display our findings to the affiliates in the feed checker. We use that too to troubleshoot feeds with the merchants. </p>
<p>And, 5. if you do spot any problems with a feed, give us a shout and we are very fast to get it fixed if we can from our end, or pester the merchant until it is.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason/Lammo,

Obviously agree completely on the importance of feeds etc. In order to do something about it, could I suggest that you speak to Kevin Edwards, new Chair of the IAB Affiliate Council, as I believe that he has an education piece on the best practice when producing/maintaining a feed on his roadmap.

Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason/Lammo,</p>
<p>Obviously agree completely on the importance of feeds etc. In order to do something about it, could I suggest that you speak to Kevin Edwards, new Chair of the IAB Affiliate Council, as I believe that he has an education piece on the best practice when producing/maintaining a feed on his roadmap.</p>
<p>Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Lammo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lammo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feeds are a lot better than they used to be, but a huge number of merchants simply don&#039;t keep them up to date - they keep out-of-stock items in there because &quot;they&#039;re due back in a few days/weeks/months&quot;, they fail to add temporary product lines, and they don&#039;t alter the feed prices when the on-site prices change.

The only thing that will change this is good merchant education - we&#039;re nagging merchants on a daily basis at ECU, and I know most networks take a similar stance, but there are more than a few networks for whom product feeds are an after-thought, and many many merchants who don&#039;t know how or why they need to update their feed.

IMO every merchant&#039;s feed should be interlinked with their own inventory database - That way every item on there is in stock, and priced correctly. Quite a few do this, but perhaps the networks should club together and offer a free inventory/feed creation/management tool to all their merchants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feeds are a lot better than they used to be, but a huge number of merchants simply don&#8217;t keep them up to date &#8211; they keep out-of-stock items in there because &#8220;they&#8217;re due back in a few days/weeks/months&#8221;, they fail to add temporary product lines, and they don&#8217;t alter the feed prices when the on-site prices change.</p>
<p>The only thing that will change this is good merchant education &#8211; we&#8217;re nagging merchants on a daily basis at ECU, and I know most networks take a similar stance, but there are more than a few networks for whom product feeds are an after-thought, and many many merchants who don&#8217;t know how or why they need to update their feed.</p>
<p>IMO every merchant&#8217;s feed should be interlinked with their own inventory database &#8211; That way every item on there is in stock, and priced correctly. Quite a few do this, but perhaps the networks should club together and offer a free inventory/feed creation/management tool to all their merchants?</p>
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